Gold Confiscation?
The subject of gold confiscation seems to be a recurring theme. There are more and more questions about it as the price of gold rises and the freedoms in American wane. Do you buy numismatics to avoid gold confiscation, can it happen again? Did it happen in the past and what are the chances of it happening now? Today I will walk you through gold confiscation and all the dirty little secrets that may affect your gold investments as I examine the greatest fear of gold investors, gold confiscation.
Nancy Pelosi said it best when commenting on the unconstitutional abortion that is the Health Care Bill, or as it is commonly called “Obama Care”.
“But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”
The height of arrogance and disdain for the rights of “we the people” is unbridled and clearly demonstrated with that statement. Unfortunately for us her words have been proven true.
Tucked away in the “Obama Care” bill is this little passage.
“…starting on January 1st in 2012, US federal law will require coin and bullion dealers to report to the Internal Revenue Service all gold and silver coin purchases and sales greater than $600.”
Why would that be tucked in the 2,300 pages of the health care bill? It is there because the bill isn’t about health care, it’s about government control!!!! We are living through a Marxist/Socialist takeover of the United States by progressives like Pelosi, Obama, Reed, Frank, Dodd and et al. The radical left cannot win elections or pass their agenda with the full light of day shining on them, so they are trying to jam everything they can into the bills before they lose their majority in Gongress. This is truly the tyranny of the minority.
I will come back to the assault on freedom by the current regime after a look at a little history. This is the executive order (#6102) that President Roosevelt signed into law On April 5, 1933.
The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933
From: President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt
To: The United States Congress
Dated: 5 April, 1933
Presidential Executive Order 6102
Forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, entitled
An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes, in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,
I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section to do hereby prohibit the hoarding gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of the order:Section 1. For the purpose of this regulation, the term ‘hoarding” means the withdrawal and withholding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates from the recognized and customary channels of trade. The term “person” means any individual, partnership, association or corporation.
Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933, except the following:
(a) Such amount of gold as may be required for legitimate and customary use in industry, profession or art within a reasonable time, including gold prior to refining and stocks of gold in reasonable amounts for the usual trade requirements of owners mining and refining such gold.
(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins.
(c) Gold coin and bullion earmarked or held in trust for a recognized foreign government or foreign central bank or the Bank for International Settlements.
(d) Gold coin and bullion licensed for the other proper transactions (not involving hoarding) including gold coin and gold bullion imported for the re-export or held pending action on applications for export license.Section 3. Until otherwise ordered any person becoming the owner of any gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates after April 28, 1933, shall within three days after receipt thereof, deliver the same in the manner prescribed in Section 2; unless such gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates are held for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a),(b) or (c) of Section 2; or unless such gold coin, gold bullion is held for purposes specified in paragraph (d) of Section 2 and the person holding it is, with respect to such gold coin or bullion, a licensee or applicant for license pending action thereon.
Section 4. Upon receipt of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates delivered to it in accordance with Section 2 or 3, the Federal reserve bank or member bank will pay thereof an equivalent amount of any other form of coin or currency coined or issued under the laws of the Unites States.
Section 5. Member banks shall deliver alt gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates owned or received by them (other than as exempted under the provisions of Section 2) to the Federal reserve banks of there respective districts and receive credit or payment thereof.
Section 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, out of the sum made available to the President by Section 501 of the Act of March 9, 1933, will in all proper cases pay the reasonable costs of transportation of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates delivered to a member bank or Federal reserve bank in accordance with Sections 2, 3, or 5 hereof, including the cost of insurance, protection, and such other incidental costs as may be necessary, upon production of satisfactory evidence of such costs. Voucher forms for this purpose may be procured from Federal reserve banks.
Section 7. In cases where the delivery of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates by the owners thereof within the time set forth above will involve extraordinary hardship or difficulty, the Secretary of the Treasury may, in his discretion, extend the time within which such delivery must be made. Applications for such extensions must be made in writing under oath; addressed to the Secretary of the Treasury and filed with a Federal reserve bank. Each applications must state the date to which the extension is desired, the amount and location of the gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates in respect of which such application is made and the facts showing extension to be necessary to avoid extraordinary hardship or difficulty.
Section 8. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized and empowered to issue such further regulations as he may deem necessary to carry the purposes of this order and to issue licenses there under, through such officers or agencies as he may designate, including licenses permitting the Federal reserve banks and member banks of the Federal Reserve System, in return for an equivalent amount of other coin, currency or credit, to deliver, earmark or hold in trust gold coin or bullion to or for persons showing the need for same for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a), (c), and (d) of Section 2 of these regulations.
Section 9. Whoever willfully violates any provision of this Executive Order or these regulation or of any rule, regulation or license issued there under may be fined not more than $10,000, or,if a natural person may be imprisoned for not more than ten years or both; and any officer, director, or agent of any corporation who knowingly participates in any such violation may be punished by a like fine, imprisonment, or both.This order and these regulations may be modified or revoked at any time.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
President of the United States of America
April 5, 1933
That is the executive order, in its entirety that has caused all of the commotion. Some gold sellers claim that because of the executive order, you should only buy numismatics because they can’t be confiscated under the executive order pursuant to:
“Section 2 (b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins.”
Who is to say that the government under the direction of “The Community Organizer In Chief” won’t issue a new directive that allows them to confiscate “numismatics”. Government is all about power and The “Community Organizer In Chief’s” government is all about expanding the governments power in the name of the Marxist/Socialist state that was the “dreams” of his father. The “numismatic” argument is so specious as to be totally laughable.
If you hold physical metal, it should be as close to spot price as possible.
Governments exercise power over you from the barrel of a gun. Don’t ever forget that, and don’t say that it can’t happen here. This regime is hellbent on doing as much destruction to the United States and its Constitution as it can while it holds the Presidency and the Congress. If you think that they will not issue a presidential directive to confiscate numismatics, if they want to, you are incredibly gullible, not to mention stupid! It’s what governments do when they face political crisis and financial meltdowns, namely, they change the rules in mid game to keep themselves in power.
The US Government can, and will, do whatever it needs to do to survive economic and civil crisis. In the worst-case scenario, financial collapse, every law or custom can be changed instantly by a Presidential Executive Order. That’s the truth, no matter what the nay-sayers preach.
A Brief History of Gold Confiscation
The Great Depression that followed the stock market crash of October 24, 1929 plunge the U.S.A. into a financial crisis, the likes of which we had never experienced, until now. It may be a coincidence (I think not), but during that crisis the country elected a “progressive”, Franklin Delano Roosevelt to the office of the Presidency. “Deja vu” all over again and we have the “progressive” Barack Hussein Obama, “ Community Organizer In Chief” running the show during the next best thing to the “Great Depression”.
President Roosevelt called the Congress into an emergency session on March 5, 1933, one day after his inauguration. At his urging, the House and Senate immediately passed:
“An Act To Provide Relief In The Existing National Emergency In Banking, And For Other Purposes”
“The Community Organizer In Chief” launched his Progressive agenda on March 23, 2010, fourteen months into his administration, with the Health Care Reform Act which included the most an odd insertion into the bill which ostensibly dealt with health care.
“…starting on January 1st in 2012, US federal law will require coin and bullion dealers to report to the Internal Revenue Service all gold and silver coin purchases and sales greater than $600.”
“Never let a good crisis go to waste.” Rahm Emanuel
During the depression, everyone felt that a law to provide “emergency relief for the banks”, was a good thing. It was natural to look for help from your government, right? Well, what the citizens desired was not what they got.
President Roosevelt wasted no time in exorcising his new power. He signed Executive Order 6102 on April 5th, 1933 and Executive Order 6260 on August 28th, 1933. Order 6260 revoked and super-ceded 6102. Basically, it became a federal crime,with steep penalties of a $10,000 fine and or up to 10 years imprisonment for any US citizen seeking to protect his wealth by simply possessing physical gold coins or bullion which they had purchased legally with income that had already been taxed. The government change the rules in mid game!
Just eight months later, new Federal legislation known as the Gold Reserve Act of 1934 enacted on 30 January, 1934 revalued gold versus the dollar. The official price was raised from $20.67 USD per ounce to $35.00 USD per ounce. Had the American people been allowed to keep their legally purchased gold, they would have almost doubled their money and the depression would have been much shorter and less severe on the public.
Did The Government Go Door To Door Confiscating Gold?
The US Government did not send armed soldiers house to house to confiscate gold. They mandated that you turn it in. Gold coins that were turned in were exchanged for legal tender Federal Reserve notes (fiat currency) on a dollar for dollar basis. A $10 gold coin was taken and the presenter given a $10 bill. Gold bullion was exchanged at a rate of $20.67 per ounce of gold. This was the official US government figure for one ounce of gold.
Pretty good deal until the Gold Reserve Act Of 1934 was enacted. Is it possible that the government knew ahead of time that it was going to rewrite the rules ahead of time? Not here, this is America and we are free!
Because the government is so benevolent, it also required notes clearly marked as gold certificates had to be surrendered, because technically you could walk into a bank and demand gold for them. These benevolent protectors of our freedoms never miss a trick!
In keeping with the benevolent theme, a citizen could legally keep a total of $100.00 face value of US gold coins or US Gold Certificates. A family of four could have kept $400.00 face value of coins and a family of seven could have kept $700, so it is pretty simple, $100 per citizen is all the gold that they were allowed to possess according to the benevolent government. It didn’t matter whether you had gradually acquired them or recently purchased them, you were required turn them in because the government changed the rules!
Will The Government Confiscate Gold Again?
The US Government has done it before and legal precedent, no matter how disingenuous, is favored in the law. Don’t doubt this for a second, if the US Government is forced to back the US dollar in a credible fashion, this may be their only alternative. “Quantitative Easing” could easily paint the government into a corner where they have no other alternative but to devalue the currency to the point where they would have to link it to gold before the currency collapses.
What Would Stop Them from Confiscating Gold?
Let’s start with the obvious: It’s freaking Un-Constitutional! After considering that, we are left to ponder the obvious, since when has that stopped anyone in the current regime that we live under? All kidding aside, confiscation of gold would result in open rebellion. I don’t think the Marxists are ready to risk it, but then, their arrogance knows no bounds. They live to trash the Constitution at every turn. The redistribution of wealth is their stated goal. What better way to do it than to confiscate gold and silver in all forms, namely physical gold, stocks, ETFs etc..
What Is The Answer To The Gold Confiscation Question?
Do what you think is right! The government has no right to things that you purchased legally. If you sell gold at a profit, then you are obligated to pay taxes on the gain. If an entity tries to steal your gold are you obligated to give it to them, I don’t think so. Gold should be stored in your possession on your property, or somewhere else that is secure, so that you have access to it if the situation warrants. Gold and silver are real wealth and they should be a portion of everyone’s portfolio. You need both. Gold is the large bills and silver is the change.
I am sensing that we are rapidly reaching the cross roads where gold will cease to be a commodity and become the real currency that it has always been. Gold Will Be The Currency Of Last Resort in the near future. With that thought in mind it is imperative to look at the average American and, once we do, you realize that “Joe Six Pack” can’t buy gold at these prices. Than is why you need to pile into silver at these prices. The “poor man’s” gold will run along with gold when gold takes off. No one gets left behind!
Gold will trade at $1,300 per ounce before the end of 2010. I hope that is all it does, because the alternative is a hyper-inflation moon shot. I for one would like to see that alternative delayed for a while.
Gold investors and goldbugs ponder gold confiscation all the time. That should be the least of their worries! If confiscation comes you will have to deal with your survival instinct first before you deal with any un-constitutional government mandates. I suggest that you put gold confiscation on the back burner and worry about gold accumulation. In the long run, gold accumulation will serve you better.
Till next time, good luck and good trading!
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What will happen to silver if they conficate gold? Will it push silver higher? Will the government take silver also?
Tahnee:
First, let say that I don’t think confiscation will happen this time around, but if it were to occur, the black market price of both gold and silver would rise dramatically. By the time inflation has risen dramatically it will be too late to confiscate gold and silver because it will all have moved underground. Hyper-inflation will cause a secondary market for goods and services that will use “real” money for payments. Anyone that is stupid enough, turn in their gold and silver to the government that debased its own currency should have their heads examined.
Rest assured that gold and silver are going much higher and they will become the money of last resort going forward, unless we get some sound minds in government that can reign in the the welfare beast that the Marxist/Socialists have unleashed on the American people.
Thanks for the question because it is an important one.
Goldbug
That is a total fabrication and an outright lie !!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the bill says is that anyone who buys or sells anything over $600.00 needs to file a 1099 form, so stop lying to people !!!!
Bullcrap:
Your handle says it all. You are full of it. Did you even take the time to read the post? You obviously have trouble understanding the English language. The article posits a question about the possibility of gold confiscation that the 1099 requirements in the so called “health care bill” open the door to. Government regulation of everything in our lives will not take us to some “progressive” utopia, but rather will lead to despotism and the destruction of our liberties. Go crawl back under that liberal rock that you reside under until you are capable of having an intelligent thought.
I’ve always though that is the feds ever come to try to take my gold, I would melt it down (into bullets)
Hey Lee:
Lead is in the neighbor hood of .27 per pound. Do the math, or at least let me know where you are shooting so that I can collect your spent bullets!
Thanks for commenting,
Goldbug
Unfortuntely the reality is a little more grave. they are already confiscating your wealth. In 1913 the FED HAD NO GOLD AS THEY SAY THEY HAVE NO GOLD NOW. Once you understand the “gold swap” or any swap for that matter you will see the problem. There are two types of economy: barter and credit. When you trade an item for another item you barter, trade and the transaction is closed. If you use gold in the swap the transaction is closed. There is no borrowing, interest or credit used. When you use currency you have used credit and therefore there is an ongoing liability and the transaction is still open until the obligation of the currecny liability has been settled. GOLD IS THE UNIVERSAL MIRROR REFLECTING THE VALUE OF FIAT CURRENCIES. FDR, Roosevelt . Bernanke and the lot; none can change that historical fact. It simply waits in the wings to value you. From 1886 to 1933 the US Treasury allowed deposits of gold and recorded the “allocated” gold to that certificate. Cretificatesc came into “creation” via the deposit of gold. This is a critical difference in Federal Reserve notes. INstead of carrying a pound of gold to do business a certificate was convientaly mobile and could be used to transact business. But this was a credit/debit transaction and not barter. The vendor could then take the certificate and redeem it for gold closing the transsaction as the certificate was then retired. Becasue the certificate was so convienant the redemptions were minimal. The powerful banking elites had been long wanted to open their bank. Banks take in deposits and make loans against those deposits charging a higer rate than they pay the depositor. But,, this is not what the Federal reserve did. Since typical behaviour of banks is to lend many times the amount of deposit, the FEderal REserve did this using treasury gold as ciollateral. They printed an amount of federal reserve notes that were in excess of all the gold above ground including the treasury gold. the treasury, the Federal reserve and The president of the United states represented that these Federal Reserve notes were redeemable in gold. Every ounce of gold that was redeemed for Federal Reserve notes actually came out of the treasury inventory, in affect, making them short that amount. If every certifcate holder asked for their gold, they would not have the amount they gave to reserve note holders. Becasue reserve notes were not created by taking in deposits of gold, they had to be distributed by making loans. They are “loaned into existence”. The notes are borrowed creating a liability to the borrwer. AS the huge amount of loans began to require larger and larger interest payments, the borrowing declined and as price contraction occurred. It was then that the Federal reserve stopped printed and themarkets collapsed. Just as ours is doing now the quantatative easing is on hold. AS this occurred certificate and reserve note holders began redeeming for gold. Since it require only a small % of redemptions to exhaust the treasury gold supply, it was clear the gig would soon be up, the treasury and the Fed convinced FDR to order an executive order not to ban possession, but against hoarding of gold. You had to turn your gold and certificates in and receive Federal REserve notes in return. the swappin of the certificate for federal reserve notes was the point of theft. The treasury now had gold with no claim against it. The treasury transferred the gold to the Fed so that it appeared these notes were backed. In 1934 the fed was given special non expiring gold certificates when the Fed “complied with the ececutive order” and turned in “their gold. they use these certificates today to affect gold swaps even though they claimt they have no value. No value, I’ll give you a buck for them, If you won’t take abuck then they have value. The expanding of the money supply and credit and then contracting it was responsible for the depression intended or not. Since the original gold theft still resides in the volume of dollars as the dollars that were used by the original certificate holders transferred the loss to whoever accepted them . the uncoupling of the dollar from gold redemption in 1971 allowed as mnay Federal reserve dollars to printed as desired with future taxes as collateral. As the economy chugged along, the excess money remained in the system and would react one way or another to monetary policies of the fed under each administration. when money again was made cheap and plentiful it headed for tech stocks, drove the price up, money supply stopped and the buble burst. Fed and Congress responsible. Money again made cheap and the losses rolled into the housing market,prices soared with the increased money supply. When the money supply contracted the housing market bubble collapsed leaving the banks with losses. Federal Reserve stimulus dollares were then created again against the national debt and given to freddie and fannie and others to buy the bad loans. Now the foreclosed homes sit at fannie and freddie or, are owned by the government. Not only have they confiscated your homes, but as the reserve currency, an amount of currency had to be created to supply the world banks with the reserve currecny to trade. As the dollar is devalued and the currecny is taken out of reserve and used to purchase gold and other hard assets that currency will end up back in the US. It will not be needed to for global trading and the massive excess of dollars will bring hyperfaltion to a point that massive amounts of value will be transferred to the issuer of the notes as those holding them find them worthless. The silver market has a 100to 1 short ratio as well which is used to control the gold market prices. Remember if the world begins to use gold, and wanted to redeem their US debt in gold it could not be done. Once the world turns away from the dollar as the reserve, whatever they use, and it will most likely be a form of gold, the amount of dollars needed to acquire the gold to conduct commerce will be astronomical. those left holding fiat Federtal Reserve notes or any other fiat currency, will be left with no value and those that swapped fiat currecny back into gold will have retained their value. the depression that will ensue when this occurs will be greater than the first one theFed created. They have had 100 years of distributing thier paper notes with nothing backing it. When hyperinflation hits you wont have enough dollars to repay debt and an even greater amounb tof wealth will be stolen.
D not lose sight of the fact that in 1933 the government required ALL gold to be turned in . THIS MEANT THEY POSSESSED ALL THE GOLD IN THE NATION SIMPLY BY DEMANDING IT. As the dollar collapses they will again resort to this method. Again don’t forget, the Federal Reserve has gold certificates artifically valued at $42.22. The final soup as the central bank transfers the entire national wealth unto themselves will be the revaluation of these certificates to the current inflated price of gold and used to acquire the gold supply that was distributed when citizens werw agian allowed to posses gold. Whoever has the gold has the real wealth. All other forms of credit or certificates are nit wealth but the promise someone will give yo a value of wealth. Convert all dollar backed assets possible to gold. As the Fed intentionally, or is forced by the rest of the world to contract the money supply, the final resting place of 100 years of oeney manipulation and huge short positions in the physical delivery of gold and silver, the bond market will burst like Mt. Vesuvius and the fiat currency will burn and be lost and the indestrucability of gold will retain the itrs value for the holder. It is at that point that I beleive China will then reveal the true amount of their gold holdings and dsince they have been aggressivley replacing reserve dollars with gold. I believe the amount will so massively greater than the rest of the world that they will become the global leader for no other reason in that they own the most gold. As BAron Rothchild said: I care not who sits on the throne of Englkand, for it is he who controls the money that has the power, and I control the money.
If you understand that gold is money, then you see the control China, Asia and other developing nations that did not go into debt because they were poor and as they began to proper put their reserve savings in gold.